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Civil War era or earlier bullet found

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posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 08:34 PM
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So my girl and I were out rockhounding in middle of no where WY looking for jade, and she found this.

I cant find ANY information on what it might be from, its Definitely lead and has the ridges of the old style cartridges

Any ideas would be awesome!





posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Maybe a .52 calibre?

It's the closest I could find.



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Maybe a .52 calibre?

It's the closest I could find.


Im buffaloed im going back into paper wrapped cartridges i cant find anything with a tip like that.......I have NO idea lol



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Maybe a .52 calibre?

It's the closest I could find.


Im buffaloed im going back into paper wrapped cartridges i cant find anything with a tip like that.......I have NO idea lol


I Bing'd images, 52 cal was the closest I could find.

But I am NO expert, so I could be very wrong.



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:06 PM
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posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It might be a 52 still in it's shell casing



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:09 PM
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The .56-56 Spencer Cartridge, which was used during the American Civil War, had a bullet diameter that varied between approximately 0.54 inches to 0.555 inches (13.7–14.1 mm), depending on the ammunition manufacturer. Specifically, the .56-52, made by Spencer, and the .56-50, made by Springfield, differed only in the degree of crimp, with both firing 350-grain .512-inch (13.0 mm) bullets1. The actual bullet diameter of the Spencer cartridge was .52 inches (13 mm)2. So, the .52-caliber designation refers to the bullet diameter of the Spencer cartridge used during the Civil War2.

-Bing Search



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It might be a 52 still in it's shell casing


I kinda want to clean it but i also hear with old # sometimes thats the worst thing to do



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
The .56-56 Spencer Cartridge, which was used during the American Civil War, had a bullet diameter that varied between approximately 0.54 inches to 0.555 inches (13.7–14.1 mm), depending on the ammunition manufacturer. Specifically, the .56-52, made by Spencer, and the .56-50, made by Springfield, differed only in the degree of crimp, with both firing 350-grain .512-inch (13.0 mm) bullets1. The actual bullet diameter of the Spencer cartridge was .52 inches (13 mm)2. So, the .52-caliber designation refers to the bullet diameter of the Spencer cartridge used during the Civil War2.

-Bing Search


You rock man, more information is always better......found it in the middle of the Jade Fields in Wy i cant imagine firing that round back then lol



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It might be a 52 still in it's shell casing


I kinda want to clean it but i also hear with old # sometimes thats the worst thing to do


Too true.



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Maybe a .52 calibre?

It's the closest I could find.


I was thinking because of the area and timeframe a Springfield 50-70.

Bison hunters like Bill Cody.





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posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 09:56 PM
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posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

It is just history... I'm not ass-chapped about it because it didn't happen to me.

A 56-56 and and a 50-70 are pretty close and because of the weather scaling in the images who knows?

Bill used a 56-56 Army Infantry Model Spencer rifle sometimes.

But I'm pretty sure because of the timeframe and the area it was about bison hunting.



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posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
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Judging by the ruler, the round looks to be .75 inch (3/4 inch) in diameter.

.75 caliber paper wrapped round. Possibly a Brown Bess:

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 30 2024 @ 10:43 PM
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well thats a new take! ill look into it, i really appreciate it



posted on May, 1 2024 @ 12:23 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
So my girl and I were out rockhounding in middle of no where WY looking for jade, and she found this.

I cant find ANY information on what it might be from, its Definitely lead and has the ridges of the old style cartridges

Any ideas would be awesome!




Looks like an old sabot round. I don't think that would've been in a paper cartridge. If it's as old as it looks then that would explain the wear on the sides that gives it a pointed shaped look.



posted on May, 1 2024 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

An old round for sure.
Paper wrapped, even cardboard wrapped I don't see that lasting better part of 100 years.

The 'assumed' calcite deposit on the shell casing obviously broadens the callable.

The measure you did not give us was the lead head. By width. Which, to my understanding is what caliber is based on.

There have been good suggestions so far.

I just do not have the full knowledge to pontificate.



posted on May, 1 2024 @ 07:37 AM
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Do they have any old west museums near you? Maybe send them a picture?
What an awesome find!!

I love rock hunting, mostly for fossils.
One of the main roads through our town, runs along an old glacier trail, and we have so many pits (quarries) along it. I have found cool fossils, in the stones around the buildings here in town, that came from them.

Plus cool stones from the farmers rock piles.
edit on 1-5-2024 by chiefsmom because: spelling



posted on May, 1 2024 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

That's just too sad for words.



posted on May, 1 2024 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I think it's a .75 caliber flintlock musket round which is fired out of something like this:
.75 Caliber Flintlock
The British used them during the War 0f 1812 and that's where it probably got it's origins.




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